Capitalism Won't Save Us. Here's What Will. | Jason Hickel

My guest today is Jason Hickel, Professor at the Institute for Environmental Science & Technology (ICTA) at the Autonomous University of Barcelona, and author of two books: The Divide and Less is More. We discuss why a growth-based capitalist economy is incompatible with a livable planet, and what a truly democratic, post-capitalist economy could look like. 

We cover lots of topics – including degrowth, AI, the history of capitalist imperialism, and how to achieve a democratic ecosocialist transition. - Michael Mezzatesta

Thanks to Pompeu Fabra University (UPF) for generously providing us with a space for this interview. 

Learn more about Jason Hickel and his work: https://www.jasonhickel.org/  

Check out https://globalinequality.org/ to view Jason’s recent project (created in collaboration with a team of fellow researchers) which visualizes data and research on global inequality. 

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00:00 Introduction: the climate crisis myth 

00:35 Introducing Jason Hickel 

02:07 The disconnect between GDP and wellbeing 

04:08 Capitalism's flawed production priorities 

07:05 The need for economic democracy 

11:04 Public finance and climate mitigation 

16:12 AI and capitalism 

20:52 Building political power for change 

25:04 The public job guarantee 

34:06 Taxing the rich for a better future 

37:00 The benefits of an ecosocialist transition 

43:42 Imperialism and the military-industrial complex 

48:54 US foreign policy and imperialism 

57:31 The hypocrisy of liberalism 

1:06:42 Some questions from the audience 

1:08:48 Gramsci & other historical figures 

1:15:18 Conclusion 

Host/Creator: Michael Mezzatesta 

Guest: Jason Hickel 

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