Stephen Kapos survived the Holocaust as a child in Nazi-occupied Hungary. In this candid interview, he recalls his time in a Jewish refugee home—hiding his identity with other children to avoid Nazi detection. He reflects on memory, survival, and the different paths his family took after the war, including his journey to London. Kapos also shares how visits to Israel opened his eyes to the country’s racism—both systemic and societal. We explore what justice looks like after atrocity, how Holocaust memory is politicised by Israel to justify war crimes, and what “Never Again” really means in today’s world. Kapos speaks about Palestine and why he continues to protest for justice. UNAPOLOGETIC is hosted by Ashfaaq Carim Chapters 0:00 Opening and Introduction 2:28 What Kapos Wants Audiences to Take Away 6:27 Growing Up Jewish in Rural Hungary 9:02 German Invasion and First Encounters with Soldiers 15:02 Wearing the Yellow Star and Early Dehumanisation 19:01 The Kasztner Train: Bargaining With the Nazis 26:22 Bergen-Belsen: Hostages in a Camp of Death 33:42 Life in Hiding: False Papers and Refugee Homes 37:15 Budapest Under Siege: The Final Battle 44:46 Memories of Escaping Bombed-Out Buildings 48:20 Arrow Cross Atrocities and Hospital Massacres 53:04 Liberation by Soviet Troops 56:18 Returning Home: The Destruction of a Life 1:02:01 A Missed Escape: Family Wiped Out in Auschwitz 1:08:27 Sorting Her Parents’ Clothes at the Camps 1:11:02 Family Reunited, Then Rebuilding Begins 1:14:41 Postwar Public Health and Communist Party Life 1:16:48 Anti-Semitism Returns in the 1956 Uprising 1:21:04 Visiting Israel and Confronting Racism 1:26:04 Leaving Hungary After 1956 and Settling in the UK 1:30:32 Joining Labour, Momentum and Corbyn's Rise 1:33:23 The Manufactured Antisemitism Crisis 1:36:46 A Tense Confrontation with Keir Starmer 1:42:00 Holocaust Survivors Against Gaza Genocide 1:48:00 Israel’s Global Impunity and the Role of the Holocaust 1:54:00 One-State Solution and Hopes for Justice Catch MEE LIVE, our new biweekly live news programme, where we take a look at the news shaping our world through breaking coverage, expert analysis and hard-hitting interviews. MEE LIVE: Tuesday & Thursday | 12pm ET | 5pm BST | Join the conversation at [email protected] Support stories that matter. Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR0fZh5SBxxMNYdg0VzRFkg/join Subscribe to our channel: http://ow.ly/AVlW30n1OWH Subscribe to MEE Telegram channel to stay up to date: https://t.me/MiddleEastEye_TG Middle East Eye Website: https://middleeasteye.net Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@middleeasteye Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/MiddleEastEye Like us on Facebook: https://facebook.com/MiddleEastEye Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MiddleEastEye